The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments
Can institutional culture challenge your mental health? What if your job makes you feel shame, sadness, grief, disgust and fear? What if you are expected not to feel? Or you are expected to be relentlessly competitive? What it’s like to live or work in a prison? Does working with people who commit murder, child abuse and rape affect people who work in prisons and the wider criminal justice system? How do people survive and thrive when facing significant challenges to our emotional health over a lengthy period? How do we protect ourselves and stay compassionate, loving and trusting? Importantly, how do we find and preserve hope? Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote that “The degree of civilisation in a society can be judged by entering its prisons”. In this weekly podcast ,your hosts, David Jones (Forensic psychotherapist) and Dr Naomi Murphy (Consultant Clinical & Forensic Psychologist) hope that exploring less visible aspects of prisons will help listeners see that prisons are a window into society and let us see people not only at their worst but also at their best. We feature a rich range of guests sharing snap shots of life in prisons and take a look at hospitals, schools, sport and the police in order to learn from other institutions. We learn about challenges to human integrity and hear important lessons and heart-warming stories about survival and growth when facing adversity in harsh places. We hope that sharing our conversations can help you make changes to your own relationship with institutions that might challenge your emotional health and well-being. Follow and connect with us and give us feedback. Let us know what you think works, and also what doesn’t. We want you to look forward to the podcast each week. We’ll also be extremely grateful for any reviews that you give us. A simple star or two or a thumbs up will do. Email: lockedupliving@gmail.com or connect with us on: Substack: https://lockedupliving.substack.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/LockedUpLiving Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomimurphypsychologist/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-jones-41910b12/ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/lockedupliving/
Episodes
Wednesday Jan 27, 2021
Wednesday Jan 27, 2021
Can therapeutic environments survive the long haul in prisons? What happens when prison environments emphasise recovery and growth?
Professor Michael Brookes (OBE) and Professor David Wilson of Birmingham City Hospital talk about their recent article, A failed success: the Barlinnie Special Unit, which came out in International Journal of Prisoner Health August 2020. They consider this unit, to most appearances highly successful working with men who the rest of the scottish prison service had struggled to contain, and why it ultimately closed. The conversation extends to thinking about why some highly creative organisations succeed and others fail.
Professor Michael Brookes was formerly Director of Therapeutic Communities at HMP Grendon where for eleven years he was the clinical lead within this accredited therapeutic community prison.
https://www.bcu.ac.uk/research/-centres-of-excellence/centre-for-applied-criminology/people/michael-brookes
David Wilson is an expert on serial killers through his work with various British police forces, academic publications, books, and media appearances. He can be found at: https://professorwilson.co.uk
Wednesday Jan 20, 2021
4. Morgan Godvin: Does prison cure addiction?
Wednesday Jan 20, 2021
Wednesday Jan 20, 2021
Society often assumes that drug addicts benefit from prison? Can prison help people recover from substance misuse? Or does prison make recovering from an addiction harder? What happens when drugs are decriminalised? What kind of services and laws are developed when people with lived experience are involved in their creation? Would there be less addiction if we were more compassionate towards people addicted to drugs?
In this episode, Morgan Godvin shares her inspirational story. Morgan serves as a commissioner on the Oregon Alcohol and Drug Policy Commission. She is in long term recovery and spent four years in prison following the death of her close friend from an overdose. She is a passionate advocate for drug, and penal reform. She is powerful in describing the difficult times she has experienced but optimimistic that change could be on the way. The inspirational book she suggests is Righteous Dopefiend (California Series in Public Anthropology): 21 by Philippe Bourgois and Jeff Schonberg:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Righteous-Dopefiend-California-Public-Anthropology/dp/0520254988/ref=sr_1_1?crid=28Z4LJWNPGWV&keywords=righteous+dopefiend&qid=1670954452&sprefix=righteous+dopefiend%2Caps%2C72&sr=8-1
Monday Jan 18, 2021
Monday Jan 18, 2021
What are the long-term effects of child abuse on children? What are some of the barriers that make it difficult for survivors of childhood abuse to trust in service providers? Can people with lived experience of severe physical, sexual and emotional abuse in childhood find ways to offer therapeutic services in a way that improves opportunities for healing? In this episode the Liz Mullinar shares her inspirational story of how she came to found the Heal For Life Foundation (Mayumarri) in 1999 to provide a safe centre for survivors where they could heal from the devastating impact of trauma and abuse. The Heal For Life model has since helped over 8,500 people across Australia and the world and has been independently evaluated to achieve significant, long-term improvements in mental, social and emotional health. This provides a different approach to working with trauma andthe elements of the work could be integrated into many settings.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Heal-Life-Yourself-Childhood-Trauma/dp/0648536521/ref=sr_1_2?crid=OBCHO2COH732&keywords=liz+mullinar&qid=1670954030&sprefix=Liz+Mullinar%2Caps%2C109&sr=8-2
Friday Jan 15, 2021
2. Gareth Ross and Lucy Reading - Measuring social climate in a prison
Friday Jan 15, 2021
Friday Jan 15, 2021
Does everyone who ends up in prison get the same kind of experience? Do all prison environments "feel" the same? Do different kinds of prison settings have a different kind of atmosphere? Why might it be useful to measure the social climate of a prison or to compare and contrast them? Are some environments more compassionate? Does the presence of psychologists or psychotherapists make a difference to how a wing is run? Is prison more effective when it involves a psychological approach?
Gareth Ross and Lucy Reading tell us about their recently published research which describes the social climate across therapeutic and non therapeutic wings in the Category B prison, HMP Gartree
Tuesday Jan 12, 2021
1. Locked up Living: Introduction to the podcast and trailer for what’s to come
Tuesday Jan 12, 2021
Tuesday Jan 12, 2021
What's it like to work in a prison? Is it any different to working in a secure hospital? Meet the co-hosts of Locked Up Living.
Locked up Living is a Podcast examining aspects of resiliance for those locked up in prisons and hospitals and the staff who look after them. Psychotherapist David Jones and Psychologist Naomi Murphy introduce themselves and talk about their own experiences and how they came to spend their lives working in prisons. This is the preface to a series of interviews from the fields of anthropology, criminology, psychology, psychiarty and psychotherapy and with people whose lived experience gives them a unique and powerful perspective.
Why 'Locked up Living?'
David is a psychotherapist who has worked leading therapeutic communities in English prisons and in Millfields, an NHS forensic setting in East London. Naomi is a Consultant Clinical and Forensic psychologist who was, for many years, clinical lead at The Fens, a treatment programme for serious offenders at HMP Whitemoor. We had both experienced painful and destructive forces in our work and so we set out to discover what things make a positive difference for staff and service users and what is it that makes things go wrong. Of course we found out that there is no easy answer but there are many fascinating and valuable experiences to be heard.