The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments
Can institutional culture challenge your mental health? What if your job makes you feel shame, sadness, grief, disgust and fear? What if you are expected not to feel? Or you are expected to be relentlessly competitive? What it’s like to live or work in a prison? Does working with people who commit murder, child abuse and rape affect people who work in prisons and the wider criminal justice system? How do people survive and thrive when facing significant challenges to our emotional health over a lengthy period? How do we protect ourselves and stay compassionate, loving and trusting? Importantly, how do we find and preserve hope? Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote that “The degree of civilisation in a society can be judged by entering its prisons”. In this weekly podcast ,your hosts, David Jones (Forensic psychotherapist) and Dr Naomi Murphy (Consultant Clinical & Forensic Psychologist) hope that exploring less visible aspects of prisons will help listeners see that prisons are a window into society and let us see people not only at their worst but also at their best. We feature a rich range of guests sharing snap shots of life in prisons and take a look at hospitals, schools, sport and the police in order to learn from other institutions. We learn about challenges to human integrity and hear important lessons and heart-warming stories about survival and growth when facing adversity in harsh places. We hope that sharing our conversations can help you make changes to your own relationship with institutions that might challenge your emotional health and well-being. Follow and connect with us and give us feedback. Let us know what you think works, and also what doesn’t. We want you to look forward to the podcast each week. We’ll also be extremely grateful for any reviews that you give us. A simple star or two or a thumbs up will do. Email: lockedupliving@gmail.com or connect with us on: Substack: https://lockedupliving.substack.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/LockedUpLiving Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomimurphypsychologist/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-jones-41910b12/ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/lockedupliving/
Episodes
Wednesday Nov 23, 2022
Dr Naomi Fisher: Is school the best way to educate your child?
Wednesday Nov 23, 2022
Wednesday Nov 23, 2022
Is our education system based in theory of how best to learn? Does our education system cause children to be labelled? What happens if your child doesn't fit well with the schooling system? Is school really the best way to learn? What does home education look like and is it a poor substitute for school? Are children who are home educated destined to be society's drop outs? What are the consequences of school-based trauma for adult learning? Might referring to offending behaviour interventions in prison as "courses" run by "tutors" backfire when people had troubled relationships with school?
Dr Naomi Fisher is both an expert in the conventional sense and an expert by experience as she talks about her own time at school and her later challenges in understanding the pros and cons of home educating children.
Naomi is an independent clinical psychologist and EMDR consultant. She specialises in trauma, autism and alternative approaches to education. She works with children, adolescents and adults.
She is the author of ‘Changing our Minds: How Children Can Take Control of their Own Learning’ (Robinson, 2021 - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Changing-Our-Minds-children-learning/dp/1472145518/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1670952068&sr=8-1)
and ‘A Different Way to Learn: Neurodiversity and Self-Directed Education’ to be published by Jessica Kingsley Publishers in 2023.
She runs online courses to support parents whose children struggle to attend school and offers training for professionals.
https://www.naomifisher.co.uk/
Wednesday Nov 16, 2022
Dr Kennath Widanaralalage. What’s the effect of sexual violence on male survivors
Wednesday Nov 16, 2022
Wednesday Nov 16, 2022
Dr Kennath Widanaralalage is a Lecturer in Psychology at the University of Westminster. He is a qualitative researcher interested in understanding: How do male victim-survivors make sense of their sexual victimisation? What coping strategies do male survivors of sexual violence use? How do male survivors of sexual abuse access support? What prevents male victims reporting their experiences to the police and involving the Criminal Justice System? What are some of the rape myths that are perpetuated about victimisation of males? Why is qualitative methodology particularly suited to exploring the experience of sexual abuse of males? What are some of the ethical issues in researching the impact of sexual abuse?
During his PhD, Ken explored men’s experiences of rape and sexual abuse in adolescence and adulthood. Working with men made him increasingly interested and committed to understanding and supporting marginalised, seldom-heard groups, using qualitative methods to provide a platform where individuals can tell their stories and break their silence. He believesin the value of personal experiences and the transfer of knowledge to help others and wants to create a better society for survivors and their close networks.
Wednesday Nov 09, 2022
Wednesday Nov 09, 2022
How do we treat young people and children who break the law? Does the criminal justice system show compassion for children who end up in trouble with the police? Can sport improve our ability to manage our emotions? Can sport provide a pathway of hope for troubled children?
Kierra Myles is a Mentor Co-ordinator working with children in care and care leavers. She was first arrested when she was just 11 years old and remanded into a secure home when she was 13, before receiving her first custodial sentence at just 15 years old. Kierra has fought hard to break down the external barriers that prevented her from securing a role working with young people and is now helping others to do the same. Kierra is also a keen martial artist and competes at an elite level as an award winning athlete in Brazilian Jiujitsu.
Wednesday Nov 02, 2022
Karen Stallard: How can art therapy and game playing help people heal?
Wednesday Nov 02, 2022
Wednesday Nov 02, 2022
Karen Stallard is a registered Psychotherapist with UKCP, registered Counsellor with BACP and registered Art Therapist with HCPC. She trained at The Institute for Arts in Therapy and Education where she gained a Masters in Integrative Arts Psychotherapy. Her private practice is called Feeling Found, which is based in Highbury and Islington, London. Karen's career journey began as an actor with a passion for the performing arts, storytelling and communicating creatively. She then trained to be a member of the clergy of the Christian church, where she worked mainly in pastoral care particularly within mental health. Karen has also worked an honorary therapist at the Women’s Service in Oxley’s NHS Trust for over four years and as a spiritual and cultural care coordinator at the East London and City Mental Health Trust for seven years. Karen founded ‘The Geoff Ashcroft Community’ in Tower Hamlets to support people suffering from mental health issues in the community, and has been a Board Member of various charities including Crossroads Counselling Service, Margins Homelessness project and Union Chapel Project. Karen is also co-chair for a bi-annual conference called ‘Continuing the Journey’, which provides training to therapists and spiritual leaders. She is the Director for Child Counselling Skills Certificate course at The Institute for Arts in Therapy and Education and the designer of 20 Dreams a card game which promotes creativity and emotional intelligence.
20 Dreams is a crazily creative card game that challenges your imagination, tests your dream telling skills and stretches your emotional intelligence to bring you endless entertainment and hilarious outcomes! Visit https://www.play20dreams.com to find out more.
Wednesday Oct 26, 2022
Wednesday Oct 26, 2022
Why do people join the armed forces? How do they meet these needs when they're no longer serving in the military? Why are there so many former veterans in prison?
Heidi Rose Tranter talks about her reseach exploring men's motivations for joining the armed forces. Heidi is a PhD student at the University of Central Lancashire. Alongside this, she works as a Research Associate at GMMH NHS Foundation Trust and delivers on the Inner Strength Programme (which supports individuals experiencing domestic conflict). Previously, she’s worked within CAMHS, primary care and forensic services, providing therapeutic support to both children and young people as well as adults. She’s also been involved in research exploring the effects of experiencing adversity during childhood on emotional resilience.
Saturday Oct 22, 2022
Saturday Oct 22, 2022
Kerry Hopkins is an acomplished journalist and a determined spirit who cares greatly about the important things in life. She has fought against ageism, sexism and particularly strongly for animal rights.In this conversation she talks about the important influences in her life and how she carved out her unique career pathway. Trigger alert, some mentions of cruelty to animals can be upsetting.
Kerry Hopkins is the founding CEO of the Broadcast Academy Ltd. She is a Board public relations strategic advisor specialising in broadcast, and has advised 22 FTSE 100/NYSE/NASDAQ listed companies, football clubs, A-list celebrities including David Beckham, actors, athletes, Members of Parliament (MPs),
https://broadcastersacademy.com/about/
Wednesday Oct 19, 2022
Wednesday Oct 19, 2022
Since joining the psychology department at UWL in 2014, Ben has engaged in a number of projects in the area of applied gender and forensic psychology. For example, he has explored the manifestation of gender within the criminal justice system, specifically the impact of rape myths in the progression of female and male cases through the criminal justice system. This includes two large-scale projects assessing police officers' beliefs and judgements, and rape case reviews in collaboration with the Mayor's Office for Policing and Crime (MOPAC). He has also worked in collaboration with charities Safelives and The Mankind Initiative to conduct large scale case reviews to illuminate the needs of domestic violence victims. In this area, he is particularly interested in exploring stereotypes around hidden victims of domestic abuse (specifically LGBTQIA+ and male victims). He now leads the Evidence-Based Domestic Abuse Research Network (EBDARN) bringing together researchers from several UK institutions to deliver this work. Other interests include the exploration of representations of gender in the media (e.g., in Disney movies).
Hine, B. A., & Hine, I. J. (in press). Fathers and Intimate Partner Violence: An Autoethnographic Analysis of Current Literature on Men’s experiences of Parental Alienation. In E. A. Bates & J. C. Taylor (Eds.) Domestic Violence Against Men and Boys: Experiences of Male Victims of Intimate Partner Violence. London, UK: Taylor & Francis
Hine, B. A., & Appiah, B. (2022). Identifying and understanding the needs of cisgendered, heterosexual male and LGBT+ survivors of domestic violence and abuse in seeking and accessing safe accommodation. Wokingham Borough Council.
Hine, B. A., Mackay, J., Baguley, T., Graham-Kevan, N., Cunliffe, M., & Galloway, A. (2022). Understanding Perpetrators of Intimate Partner Violence (IPV). Home Office.
Wednesday Oct 12, 2022
Sophie King Hill. Children, sex and sexuality. How to talk about an embarassing subject.
Wednesday Oct 12, 2022
Wednesday Oct 12, 2022
Sophie King-Hill is a senior fellow at the Health Service Management Centre at theUniversity of Birmingham. Previously she was a lecturer in Education and Inclusion atWoucester University. She has extensive experience with the 3rd sector and specialises insexual behaviours and how these relate to young people. Sophie has most recentlywritten about managing the fall out of sibling sexual abuse.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/car.2664
https://www.magonlinelibrary.com/doi/abs/10.12968/bjsn.2015.10.5.231
Wednesday Oct 05, 2022
Wednesday Oct 05, 2022
Emma Beckerle
Emma has spent her career leading, building and scaling up rapid-growth businesses in the travel, restaurant and cannabis industries and she’s been highly successful across each of these industries. She is also founder of ABO Performance which supports small and early stage businesses in the cannabis, psychedelics and technology industries. Emma’s very knowledgeable about the medicinal and microdosing use of cannabis and psychedelics so we’re delighted to give you chance to listen to Emma today.
https://www.aboperformance.com/
And if you get the chance watch the Netflix series 'How to change your mind'.
https://www.netflix.com/gb/title/80229847
Wednesday Sep 28, 2022
Wednesday Sep 28, 2022
Gilbert Grieve is an experienced Manager, Trainer and Adviser with a history of working in the information services and Commnunity Development industry. Skilled in Nonprofit Organizations, Social Enterprise, Crisis Intervention, Facilitation, and Fundraising. Strong professional completing an MSc focused in psychology from Northumbria University. He has experience in collaboration with public sector in development of community services and co production, also previous community representative on community planning and health partnerships. involved in developing the efqm framework for Scottish infrastructure organisations and efqm assessor and managed two separate organisations through Investors in People and EFQM Accreditation. Hold SVQ 4 management accredited by the Chartered Management Institute. expert in organisational development, staff training and development with experience in developing numerous organisations from planning stage to operations delivery. currently working in wellbeing identifying issues and support packages for patients from general practice with anxiety and stress problems.
This link takes you to research on the value of social prescribing,
https://repository.uel.ac.uk/download/b166f8139440a6183a11e5756431965c13846b3c8716079c07ec309a5d258586/1290254/Final%20evaluation%20draft%20report%20Redbridge%20SP%20100920%20final.pdf

Why 'Locked up Living?'
David is a psychotherapist who has worked leading therapeutic communities in English prisons and in Millfields, an NHS forensic setting in East London. Naomi is a Consultant Clinical and Forensic psychologist who was, for many years, clinical lead at The Fens, a treatment programme for serious offenders at HMP Whitemoor. We had both experienced painful and destructive forces in our work and so we set out to discover what things make a positive difference for staff and service users and what is it that makes things go wrong. Of course we found out that there is no easy answer but there are many fascinating and valuable experiences to be heard.