The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments
Can institutional culture challenge your mental health? What if your job makes you feel shame, sadness, grief, disgust and fear? What if you are expected not to feel? Or you are expected to be relentlessly competitive? What it’s like to live or work in a prison? Does working with people who commit murder, child abuse and rape affect people who work in prisons and the wider criminal justice system?
How do people survive and thrive when facing significant challenges to our emotional health over a lengthy period? How do we protect ourselves and stay compassionate, loving and trusting? Importantly, how do we find and preserve hope?
Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote that “The degree of civilisation in a society can be judged by entering its prisons”. In this weekly podcast ,your hosts, David Jones (Forensic psychotherapist) and Dr Naomi Murphy (Consultant Clinical & Forensic Psychologist) hope that exploring less visible aspects of prisons will help listeners see that prisons are a window into society and let us see people not only at their worst but also at their best. We feature a rich range of guests sharing snap shots of life in prisons and take a look at hospitals, schools, sport and the police in order to learn from other institutions. We learn about challenges to human integrity and hear important lessons and heart-warming stories about survival and growth when facing adversity in harsh places. We hope that sharing our conversations can help you make changes to your own relationship with institutions that might challenge your emotional health and well-being.
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Episodes

Wednesday Aug 13, 2025
Dr Eileen Borris (Audio); Transforming Lives with Political Forgiveness
Wednesday Aug 13, 2025
Wednesday Aug 13, 2025
Guest: Dr. Eileen Borris, Clinical and Political Psychologist
Host(s): David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy
Episode Summary: In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Eileen Borris, a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness at individual, community, and national levels. Dr. Borris has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in conflict areas around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East.
https://www.drborris.com/books/finding-forgiveness-a-7-step-program-for-letting-go-of-anger-and-bitterness/
Key Topics Discussed:
Introduction to Political Forgiveness:
Dr. Borris explains the concept of political forgiveness, which involves truth, forbearance, empathy, and a commitment to repair fractured relationships. She shares how her personal background and family history influenced her interest in this subject
Importance of Forgiveness:
The discussion highlights the significance of forgiveness in healing communities and moving forward without ignoring past evils or reducing justice to revenge
South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission:
Dr. Borris discusses the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission as a model for political forgiveness and the lessons learned from it
Forgiveness in Rwanda:
The conversation touches on the role of forgiveness in Rwanda's healing process after the genocide and the challenges of addressing deep-seated emotions and historical grievances
Forgiveness as a Skill:
Dr. Borris emphasizes that forgiveness is a skill that can be learned and practiced by anyone. She shares practical steps for letting go of grievances and changing one's emotional state
Forgiveness in the Criminal Justice System:
The episode explores the implications of forgiveness for the justice system and the importance of self-forgiveness for individuals who have committed serious offenses
Stories of Forgiveness:
Dr. Borris shares powerful stories of forgiveness, including the unlikely friendship between a Black pastor and a former Ku Klux Klan member in South Carolina
Cultural Differences in Forgiveness:
The discussion highlights how forgiveness is built into the cultures of certain countries and the communal nature of forgiveness practices in places like Sierra Leone
Dr. Borris's Book and Podcast:
Dr. Borris talks about her book "Finding Forgiveness," which provides a self-help guide to learning forgiveness, and her podcast "Political Forgiveness Voices of Peace," which aims to inspire people to bridge divides and build a culture of political forgiveness
Maintaining Well-being:
Dr. Borris shares her personal practices for maintaining well-being while working in difficult situations, including meditation, gratitude, and staying connected with loved ones
Key Takeaways:
Forgiveness is a powerful tool for healing and reconciliation at both individual and community levels.
It is important to address underlying emotions and historical grievances to achieve true forgiveness.
Forgiveness is a skill that can be learned and practiced by anyone, regardless of their background or experiences.
Building a culture of political forgiveness can lead to better societies and nations.

Wednesday Aug 13, 2025
Dr Eileen Borris (Video); Transforming Lives with Political Forgiveness
Wednesday Aug 13, 2025
Wednesday Aug 13, 2025
Guest: Dr. Eileen Borris, Clinical and Political Psychologist
Host(s): David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy
Episode Summary: In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Eileen Borris, a clinical and political psychologist who has pioneered the concept of political forgiveness at individual, community, and national levels. Dr. Borris has addressed the United Nations and has worked for over 30 years to build peace in conflict areas around the world, including Rwanda, South Africa, Liberia, Nigeria, Ethiopia, and the Middle East.
https://www.drborris.com/books/finding-forgiveness-a-7-step-program-for-letting-go-of-anger-and-bitterness/
Key Topics Discussed:
Introduction to Political Forgiveness:
Dr. Borris explains the concept of political forgiveness, which involves truth, forbearance, empathy, and a commitment to repair fractured relationships. She shares how her personal background and family history influenced her interest in this subject
Importance of Forgiveness:
The discussion highlights the significance of forgiveness in healing communities and moving forward without ignoring past evils or reducing justice to revenge
South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission:
Dr. Borris discusses the South African Truth and Reconciliation Commission as a model for political forgiveness and the lessons learned from it
Forgiveness in Rwanda:
The conversation touches on the role of forgiveness in Rwanda's healing process after the genocide and the challenges of addressing deep-seated emotions and historical grievances
Forgiveness as a Skill:
Dr. Borris emphasizes that forgiveness is a skill that can be learned and practiced by anyone. She shares practical steps for letting go of grievances and changing one's emotional state
Forgiveness in the Criminal Justice System:
The episode explores the implications of forgiveness for the justice system and the importance of self-forgiveness for individuals who have committed serious offenses
Stories of Forgiveness:
Dr. Borris shares powerful stories of forgiveness, including the unlikely friendship between a Black pastor and a former Ku Klux Klan member in South Carolina
Cultural Differences in Forgiveness:
The discussion highlights how forgiveness is built into the cultures of certain countries and the communal nature of forgiveness practices in places like Sierra Leone
Dr. Borris's Book and Podcast:
Dr. Borris talks about her book "Finding Forgiveness," which provides a self-help guide to learning forgiveness, and her podcast "Political Forgiveness Voices of Peace," which aims to inspire people to bridge divides and build a culture of political forgiveness
Maintaining Well-being:
Dr. Borris shares her personal practices for maintaining well-being while working in difficult situations, including meditation, gratitude, and staying connected with loved ones
Key Takeaways:
Forgiveness is a powerful tool for healing and reconciliation at both individual and community levels.
It is important to address underlying emotions and historical grievances to achieve true forgiveness.
Forgiveness is a skill that can be learned and practiced by anyone, regardless of their background or experiences.
Building a culture of political forgiveness can lead to better societies and nations.

Wednesday Aug 06, 2025
Wednesday Aug 06, 2025
Episode Summary: In this powerful episode, Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet with Susan MacRae and Sherri Thomson, two courageous women who have been fighting against the use of non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) in cases of childhood sexual abuse. They share their personal stories, the challenges they faced, and their ongoing efforts to bring justice and change to the system. This episode delves into the emotional and legal battles they have endured and highlights the importance of public awareness and legislative change.
https://www.therestitutionproject.ca/about
Since our conversation, Texas and Missouri have passed Trey’s Law, banning NDAs for childhood sexual assault. So, this law will now cover a population of about 87 million people (this includes both Tennessee and California that already have laws banning NDAs for childhood sexual assault.). As the NDA is a tool of human traffickers this is good news!
Key Points:
Introduction: David welcomes Susan MacRae and Sherri Thomson, who are based in British Columbia and Ontario, respectively, and asks them to share how they met and began working together
Susan's Story: Susan discusses her experience with a non-disclosure agreement related to childhood sexual abuse, her legal battles, and the impact on her life.
Sherri's Story: Sherri shares her journey of breaking her NDA, the legal repercussions, and the emotional toll it took on her.
Legal and Emotional Impact: Both Susan and Sherri discuss the long-term psychological effects of signing NDAs and the challenges of seeking justice.
Public Awareness and Legislative Change: The importance of public records, the role of the justice system, and the need for legislative changes to protect victims of childhood abuse.
The Restitution Project: Susan and Sherri talk about their initiative, The Restitution Project, aimed at addressing the misuse of NDAs in cases of childhood abuse.
Support and Self-Care: How Susan and Sherri support each other and manage the emotional toll of their work.
Conclusion: Final thoughts on the fight for justice and the importance of continued advocacy.

Wednesday Aug 06, 2025
Wednesday Aug 06, 2025
Episode Summary: In this powerful episode, Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet with Susan MacRae and Sherri Thomson, two courageous women who have been fighting against the use of non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) in cases of childhood sexual abuse. They share their personal stories, the challenges they faced, and their ongoing efforts to bring justice and change to the system. This episode delves into the emotional and legal battles they have endured and highlights the importance of public awareness and legislative change.
https://www.therestitutionproject.ca/about
Since our conversation, Texas and Missouri have passed Trey’s Law, banning NDAs for childhood sexual assault. So, this law will now cover a population of about 87 million people (this includes both Tennessee and California that already have laws banning NDAs for childhood sexual assault.). As the NDA is a tool of human traffickers this is good news!
Key Points:
Introduction: David welcomes Susan MacRae and Sherri Thomson, who are based in British Columbia and Ontario, respectively, and asks them to share how they met and began working together
Susan's Story: Susan discusses her experience with a non-disclosure agreement related to childhood sexual abuse, her legal battles, and the impact on her life.
Sherri's Story: Sherri shares her journey of breaking her NDA, the legal repercussions, and the emotional toll it took on her.
Legal and Emotional Impact: Both Susan and Sherri discuss the long-term psychological effects of signing NDAs and the challenges of seeking justice.
Public Awareness and Legislative Change: The importance of public records, the role of the justice system, and the need for legislative changes to protect victims of childhood abuse.
The Restitution Project: Susan and Sherri talk about their initiative, The Restitution Project, aimed at addressing the misuse of NDAs in cases of childhood abuse.
Support and Self-Care: How Susan and Sherri support each other and manage the emotional toll of their work.
Conclusion: Final thoughts on the fight for justice and the importance of continued advocacy.

Wednesday Jul 30, 2025
Dr Warren Larkin (Audio); The Power of Environment in Education
Wednesday Jul 30, 2025
Wednesday Jul 30, 2025
Keywords
clinical psychology, trauma, resilience, education, mental health, policy development, children and families, trauma-informed care, REACH model, well-being
Summary
In this conversation, Dr. Naomi Murphy and David Jones talk with Dr. Warren Larkin who describes his journey from a challenging educational background to becoming a clinical psychologist. He discusses the significant impact of environment on learning, particularly in relation to trauma and resilience. Dr. Larkin emphasizes the importance of working with children and families, advocating for trauma-informed approaches in education and mental health. He reflects on his experiences in policy development and the challenges of implementing trauma-informed care in various settings. The conversation also covers the REACH model, which focuses on routine inquiry about childhood adversity, and highlights the importance of safety and relationships in fostering well-being.
https://warrenlarkinassociates.co.uk/portfolio-items/routine-enquiry-about-adversity-in-childhood-reach-programme/
He is now managing director of Warren Larkin Associates which, among other things WLA help organisations recognise and respond more effectively to the needs of staff and clients affected by trauma.
https://warrenlarkinassociates.co.uk/
Takeaways
Warren Larkin's educational journey highlights the impact of supportive environments.
Trauma and resilience are crucial in educational settings.
Early intervention is important, but prevention is even better.
Policy changes often do not translate to practice changes.
The REACH model emphasizes routine inquiry about childhood adversity.
Creating safe environments is essential for effective trauma-informed care.
Relationships are key to resilience and well-being.
Social support is the most powerful factor in coping with stress.
Trauma-informed care is still not well understood in many settings.
There is a need for more robust evaluations of trauma-informed interventions.
Sound bites
"I left school with one O level and one CSE."
"I've never looked back since leaving the NHS."
"Relationships are the best medicine."
Chapters
00:00 Warren Larkin's Journey to Clinical Psychology
03:58 The Impact of Environment on Learning
05:39 Working with Children and Families
08:46 Trauma and Psychosis: A New Perspective
10:41 Policy Development and Challenges
16:25 Success Stories in Mental Health Policy
17:43 Transitioning to Private Practice
20:38 Navigating the NHS and Independent Work
24:53 The REACH Model: Understanding Adverse Childhood Experiences
32:44 Barriers to Routine Inquiry in Healthcare
38:18 Trauma-Informed Care: Understanding and Application
43:50 Personal Well-Being: Balancing Work and Life

Wednesday Jul 30, 2025
Dr Warren Larkin (Video); The Power of Environment in Education
Wednesday Jul 30, 2025
Wednesday Jul 30, 2025
Keywords
clinical psychology, trauma, resilience, education, mental health, policy development, children and families, trauma-informed care, REACH model, well-being
Summary
In this conversation, Dr. Naomi Murphy and David Jones talk with Dr. Warren Larkin who describes his journey from a challenging educational background to becoming a clinical psychologist. He discusses the significant impact of environment on learning, particularly in relation to trauma and resilience. Dr. Larkin emphasizes the importance of working with children and families, advocating for trauma-informed approaches in education and mental health. He reflects on his experiences in policy development and the challenges of implementing trauma-informed care in various settings. The conversation also covers the REACH model, which focuses on routine inquiry about childhood adversity, and highlights the importance of safety and relationships in fostering well-being.
https://warrenlarkinassociates.co.uk/portfolio-items/routine-enquiry-about-adversity-in-childhood-reach-programme/
He is now managing director of Warren Larkin Associates which, among other things helps organisations recognise and respond more effectively to the needs of staff and clients affected by trauma.
https://warrenlarkinassociates.co.uk/
Takeaways
Warren Larkin's educational journey highlights the impact of supportive environments.
Trauma and resilience are crucial in educational settings.
Early intervention is important, but prevention is even better.
Policy changes often do not translate to practice changes.
The REACH model emphasizes routine inquiry about childhood adversity.
Creating safe environments is essential for effective trauma-informed care.
Relationships are key to resilience and well-being.
Social support is the most powerful factor in coping with stress.
Trauma-informed care is still not well understood in many settings.
There is a need for more robust evaluations of trauma-informed interventions.
Sound bites
"I left school with one O level and one CSE."
"I've never looked back since leaving the NHS."
"Relationships are the best medicine."
Chapters
00:00 Warren Larkin's Journey to Clinical Psychology
03:58 The Impact of Environment on Learning
05:39 Working with Children and Families
08:46 Trauma and Psychosis: A New Perspective
10:41 Policy Development and Challenges
16:25 Success Stories in Mental Health Policy
17:43 Transitioning to Private Practice
20:38 Navigating the NHS and Independent Work
24:53 The REACH Model: Understanding Adverse Childhood Experiences
32:44 Barriers to Routine Inquiry in Healthcare
38:18 Trauma-Informed Care: Understanding and Application
43:50 Personal Well-Being: Balancing Work and Life

Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Jennifer Gibson (Audio); Revolutionizing whistleblowing. The Psst approach.
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
keywords
whistleblowing, advocacy, tech industry, Psst, Jennifer Gibson, support systems, societal impact, collectivizing, mental health, legal support
summary
In this conversation, Jennifer Gibson, co-founder of Psst, discusses the challenges and importance of whistleblowing, particularly in the tech industry. She emphasizes the need for systemic support for whistleblowers, the risks they face, and the societal implications of silence. Jennifer advocates for a collectivized approach to whistleblowing, providing legal and emotional support to those who dare to speak up. The discussion also touches on the personal challenges faced by advocates in this field and the importance of ethical leadership in corporations.
Psst.org is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and relies donations to do its work. To learn more about their approach, you can visit www.psst.org or read this recent Wired profile of the organization: https://www.wired.com/story/amber-scorah-psst-tech-whistleblowers/. You can also sign up to their weekly substack: https://psstpsst.substack.com/. To make a donation, please go to www.psst.org/donate."
Please note; two names are wrongly spelled in the captions they’ are Amber Scorah and Rebecca Petras not Amber Sporoff and Rebecca Petrus
takeaways
Psst aims to revolutionize whistleblowing by providing systemic support.
Whistleblowers often risk everything for societal benefit.
Collectivizing whistleblowing can provide safety and support.
The tech industry presents unique challenges for whistleblowers.
Mental health support is crucial for whistleblowers.
The societal impact of silence can be detrimental.
Ethical leadership is needed in the corporate sector.
Whistleblowing can be a traumatic experience.
Advocates must take care of their own mental health.
Life in advocacy is a marathon, requiring resilience.
Sound Bites
"We need to hold power to account."
"The stakes are very high in tech."
"Life is a marathon, not a sprint."
Chapters
00:00Introduction to Whistleblowing and Psst
01:39Jennifer's Journey into Whistleblowing
04:51The Trauma of Whistleblowing
07:54Challenges in the Tech Industry
11:03The Risks of Speaking Up
14:29The Consequences of Silence
18:16The Collective Approach to Whistleblowing
20:50Support Systems for Whistleblowers
23:50Expanding the Model Beyond Tech
25:47Personal Challenges in Advocacy

Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Jennifer Gibson (Video); Revolutionizing Whistleblowing: The Psst Approach
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
Wednesday Jul 23, 2025
keywords
whistleblowing, advocacy, tech industry, Psst, Jennifer Gibson, support systems, societal impact, collectivizing, mental health, legal support
summary
In this conversation, Jennifer Gibson, co-founder of Psst, discusses the challenges and importance of whistleblowing, particularly in the tech industry. She emphasizes the need for systemic support for whistleblowers, the risks they face, and the societal implications of silence. Jennifer advocates for a collectivized approach to whistleblowing, providing legal and emotional support to those who dare to speak up. The discussion also touches on the personal challenges faced by advocates in this field and the importance of ethical leadership in corporations.
Psst.org is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and relies donations to do its work. To learn more about their approach, you can visit www.psst.org or read this recent Wired profile of the organization: https://www.wired.com/story/amber-scorah-psst-tech-whistleblowers/. You can also sign up to their weekly substack: https://psstpsst.substack.com/. To make a donation, please go to www.psst.org/donate."
Please note; two names are wrongly spelled in the captions they’ are Amber Scorah and Rebecca Petras not Amber Sporoff and Rebecca Petrus
takeaways
Psst aims to revolutionize whistleblowing by providing systemic support.
Whistleblowers often risk everything for societal benefit.
Collectivizing whistleblowing can provide safety and support.
The tech industry presents unique challenges for whistleblowers.
Mental health support is crucial for whistleblowers.
The societal impact of silence can be detrimental.
Ethical leadership is needed in the corporate sector.
Whistleblowing can be a traumatic experience.
Advocates must take care of their own mental health.
Life in advocacy is a marathon, requiring resilience.
Sound Bites
"We need to hold power to account."
"The stakes are very high in tech."
"Life is a marathon, not a sprint."
Chapters
00:00Introduction to Whistleblowing and Psst
01:39Jennifer's Journey into Whistleblowing
04:51The Trauma of Whistleblowing
07:54Challenges in the Tech Industry
11:03The Risks of Speaking Up
14:29The Consequences of Silence
18:16The Collective Approach to Whistleblowing
20:50Support Systems for Whistleblowers
23:50Expanding the Model Beyond Tech
25:47Personal Challenges in Advocacy

Wednesday Jul 16, 2025
Dr Mitchell Abrams (Audio); Quantum Connections: The Science of the Heart
Wednesday Jul 16, 2025
Wednesday Jul 16, 2025
Keywords
energy medicine, heart health, quantum physics, compassion, healing, consciousness, spirituality, medical model, collective coherence, NextGenHealth
Summary
In this enlightening conversation, Dr. Mitchell Abrams discusses the profound connection between energy medicine, the heart, and consciousness. He shares his personal journey from a scientific background to exploring the emotional and spiritual dimensions of healing, emphasizing the heart's role in compassion and connection. The discussion delves into the relevance of quantum physics in medicine, the need for a new medical model that integrates compassion, and the importance of collective coherence in fostering a healthier society. Dr. Abrams also introduces his organization, NextGenHealth, which aims to cultivate deeper connections and understanding among individuals for a more compassionate world.
Takeaways
Mitch Abrams emphasizes the heart's role in healing beyond its physical function.
Personal experiences, such as heart surgery, can lead to profound shifts in understanding health and healing.
Quantum physics provides insights into the interconnectedness of all beings and the nature of reality.
Compassion and connection are essential for effective healing and healthcare.
The current medical model often neglects the emotional and spiritual aspects of health.
Collective coherence can significantly impact societal well-being and behavior.
There is a growing interest in integrating spirituality and science in medicine.
NextGenHealth aims to empower individuals to reclaim their agency in health and healing.
The importance of community and connection in personal and collective healing.
Journalists have a responsibility to balance negative narratives with positive stories that inspire hope.
Quantum Connections: The Science of the Heart

Wednesday Jul 16, 2025
Dr. Mitchell Abrams (Video);Quantum Connections: The Science of the Heart
Wednesday Jul 16, 2025
Wednesday Jul 16, 2025
Keywords
energy medicine, heart health, quantum physics, compassion, healing, consciousness, spirituality, medical model, collective coherence, NextGenHealth
Summary
In this enlightening conversation, Dr. Mitchell Abrams discusses the profound connection between energy medicine, the heart, and consciousness. He shares his personal journey from a scientific background to exploring the emotional and spiritual dimensions of healing, emphasizing the heart's role in compassion and connection. The discussion delves into the relevance of quantum physics in medicine, the need for a new medical model that integrates compassion, and the importance of collective coherence in fostering a healthier society. Dr. Abrams also introduces his organization, NextGenHealth, which aims to cultivate deeper connections and understanding among individuals for a more compassionate world.
Takeaways
Mitch Abrams emphasizes the heart's role in healing beyond its physical function.
Personal experiences, such as heart surgery, can lead to profound shifts in understanding health and healing.
Quantum physics provides insights into the interconnectedness of all beings and the nature of reality.
Compassion and connection are essential for effective healing and healthcare.
The current medical model often neglects the emotional and spiritual aspects of health.
Collective coherence can significantly impact societal well-being and behavior.
There is a growing interest in integrating spirituality and science in medicine.
NextGenHealth aims to empower individuals to reclaim their agency in health and healing.
The importance of community and connection in personal and collective healing.
Journalists have a responsibility to balance negative narratives with positive stories that inspire hope.

Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
Deborah Jump (Audio); The Impact of Boxing on Youth Violence
Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
Keywords
boxing, youth violence, criminology, masculinity, trauma, desistance, community, mental health, gender, sports sociology
Summary
In this conversation, Deborah Jump discusses her extensive research on the intersection of boxing, youth violence, and masculinity. She explores why boxing is particularly appealing to young men at risk of crime, the complex relationship between boxing and violence, and the societal perceptions surrounding the sport. Jump emphasizes the psychological aspects of boxing, including how it can reinforce notions of masculinity and respect, while also providing a sense of community and routine. She reflects on the benefits and drawbacks of boxing as a sport, particularly in relation to mental health and trauma, and shares her transition from studying boxing to focusing on forensic studies in youth violence.
Takeaways
Boxing is appealing to young men as it allows them to rehearse masculine identities.
The sport can create a community that fosters strength and power.
Boxing may reinforce the idea that violence is an acceptable solution.
Respect in boxing culture can often be rooted in fear.
There is no substantial evidence linking boxing to crime reduction.
Boxing can have positive impacts on mental health, such as reducing anxiety.
The culture of boxing can perpetuate harmful messages about violence.
Young women also use boxing to reclaim ownership of their bodies.
Therapy is essential for those working in trauma-related fields.
The motivations for engaging in boxing can be complex and multifaceted.
Deborah Jump is the co-director for the Manchester Centre for Youth Studies at Manchester Metropolitan University and she has 20 years experience of working in youth justice as both a practitioner and a manager. Deborah's current research focuses on trauma and youth justice with a particular interest in the impact of serious youth violence and forensic psychotherapeutic methods. She is training to be a psychoanalytic psychotherapist

Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
Deborah Jump (Video); The Impact of Boxing on Youth Violence
Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
Wednesday Jul 09, 2025
Keywords
boxing, youth violence, criminology, masculinity, trauma, desistance, community, mental health, gender, sports sociology
Summary
In this conversation, Deborah Jump discusses her extensive research on the intersection of boxing, youth violence, and masculinity. She explores why boxing is particularly appealing to young men at risk of crime, the complex relationship between boxing and violence, and the societal perceptions surrounding the sport. Jump emphasizes the psychological aspects of boxing, including how it can reinforce notions of masculinity and respect, while also providing a sense of community and routine. She reflects on the benefits and drawbacks of boxing as a sport, particularly in relation to mental health and trauma, and shares her transition from studying boxing to focusing on forensic studies in youth violence.
Takeaways
Boxing is appealing to young men as it allows them to rehearse masculine identities.
The sport can create a community that fosters strength and power.
Boxing may reinforce the idea that violence is an acceptable solution.
Respect in boxing culture can often be rooted in fear.
There is no substantial evidence linking boxing to crime reduction.
Boxing can have positive impacts on mental health, such as reducing anxiety.
The culture of boxing can perpetuate harmful messages about violence.
Young women also use boxing to reclaim ownership of their bodies.
Therapy is essential for those working in trauma-related fields.
The motivations for engaging in boxing can be complex and multifaceted.
Deborah Jump is the co-director for the Manchester Centre for Youth Studies at Manchester Metropolitan University and she has 20 years experience of working in youth justice as both a practitioner and a manager. Deborah's current research focuses on trauma and youth justice with a particular interest in the impact of serious youth violence and forensic psychotherapeutic methods. She is training to be a psychoanalytic psychotherapist

Wednesday Jul 02, 2025
Simon Scott (Audio); The Parole Process: A Barrier to Community Integration?
Wednesday Jul 02, 2025
Wednesday Jul 02, 2025
Keywords
criminal justice, parole, life sentences, probation, reintegration, mental health, support systems, identity, relationships, research
Takeaways
Preparation for parole does not equate to preparation for community life.
The parole board's focus is on compliance rather than personal growth.
Academic credentials can provide a pathway for reintegration.
Probation often lacks effective support for individuals on life sentences.
Institutionalization can hinder personal development post-release.
Access to housing and employment is a significant challenge for released individuals.
Relationships are crucial for successful reintegration but often lack support.
Disclosure of past convictions can complicate personal relationships.
Identity management is a complex issue for those released from prison.
Lived experience should inform criminal justice policy and practice.
Summary
In this episode of the Locked Up Living podcast, Naomi Murphy and David Jones speak with Simon Scott, who shares his extensive experience in the criminal justice system, both as a former inmate and as a professional working in the field. They discuss the challenges faced by individuals preparing for parole and the stark contrast between that preparation and the realities of life in the community. Simon reflects on his academic journey, the inadequacies of probation support, and the complexities of reintegrating into society after a long prison sentence. The conversation highlights the importance of relationships, mental health support, and the need for a more empathetic and informed approach to criminal justice policy.

Wednesday Jul 02, 2025
Simon Scott (Video); The Parole Process: A Barrier to Community Integration?
Wednesday Jul 02, 2025
Wednesday Jul 02, 2025
Keywords
criminal justice, parole, life sentences, probation, reintegration, mental health, support systems, identity, relationships, research
Takeaways
Preparation for parole does not equate to preparation for community life.
The parole board's focus is on compliance rather than personal growth.
Academic credentials can provide a pathway for reintegration.
Probation often lacks effective support for individuals on life sentences.
Institutionalization can hinder personal development post-release.
Access to housing and employment is a significant challenge for released individuals.
Relationships are crucial for successful reintegration but often lack support.
Disclosure of past convictions can complicate personal relationships.
Identity management is a complex issue for those released from prison.
Lived experience should inform criminal justice policy and practice.
Summary
In this episode of the Locked Up Living podcast, Naomi Murphy and David Jones speak with Simon Scott, who shares his extensive experience in the criminal justice system, both as a former inmate and as a professional working in the field. They discuss the challenges faced by individuals preparing for parole and the stark contrast between that preparation and the realities of life in the community. Simon reflects on his academic journey, the inadequacies of probation support, and the complexities of reintegrating into society after a long prison sentence. The conversation highlights the importance of relationships, mental health support, and the need for a more empathetic and informed approach to criminal justice policy.

Wednesday Jun 25, 2025
Eppie Sprung (Audio); Navigating Life After Conviction: Eppie's Story
Wednesday Jun 25, 2025
Wednesday Jun 25, 2025
keywords
Next Chapter Scotland, stigma, parenting, criminal justice, children's book, identity, mental health, support, resilience, sexual offences.
summary
In this conversation, with David and |Naomi Eppie Sprung, the founder of Next Chapter Scotland, shares her journey of navigating life after a conviction for a sexual offense. She discusses the inspiration behind her children's book (Here with You) aimed at helping parents talk to their children about difficult pasts. Eppie reflects on the stigma she faces, her identity as a mother, and the importance of honesty in family conversations. She emphasizes the need for compassion and understanding in the criminal justice system and shares her strategies for coping with media attention and personal challenges.
In August Next Chapter Scotland will be launching a Scotland-wide report into the impacts faced by people who have been involved with the criminal justice system and calling for the system-wide changes.
www.herewithyoubook.co.uk
www.nextchapterscotland.org.uk
takeaways
Eppie's book aims to facilitate conversations about difficult pasts.
Stigma and discrimination are significant challenges for those with criminal records.
The importance of community support in overcoming personal challenges.
Eppie's identity as a mother is central to her healing process.
Honesty with children about the past fosters trust and understanding.
Self-compassion is crucial for mental well-being.
Eppie believes in the potential for change and redemption.
The media's portrayal of individuals with convictions can be harmful.
Eppie's charity focuses on helping others navigate their pasts.
Creating a supportive environment is essential for healing.

Wednesday Jun 25, 2025
Eppie Sprung (Video); Navigating Life After Conviction: Eppie's Story
Wednesday Jun 25, 2025
Wednesday Jun 25, 2025
keywords
Next Chapter Scotland, stigma, parenting, criminal justice, children's book, identity, mental health, support, resilience, sexual offences.
summary
In this conversation, with David and |Naomi Eppie Sprung, the founder of Next Chapter Scotland, shares her journey of navigating life after a conviction for a sexual offense. She discusses the inspiration behind her children's book (Here with You) aimed at helping parents talk to their children about difficult pasts. Eppie reflects on the stigma she faces, her identity as a mother, and the importance of honesty in family conversations. She emphasizes the need for compassion and understanding in the criminal justice system and shares her strategies for coping with media attention and personal challenges.
In August Next Chapter Scotland will be launching a Scotland-wide report into the impacts faced by people who have been involved with the criminal justice system and calling for the system-wide changes.
www.herewithyoubook.co.uk
www.nextchapterscotland.org.uk
takeaways
Eppie's book aims to facilitate conversations about difficult pasts.
Stigma and discrimination are significant challenges for those with criminal records.
The importance of community support in overcoming personal challenges.
Eppie's identity as a mother is central to her healing process.
Honesty with children about the past fosters trust and understanding.
Self-compassion is crucial for mental well-being.
Eppie believes in the potential for change and redemption.
The media's portrayal of individuals with convictions can be harmful.
Eppie's charity focuses on helping others navigate their pasts.
Creating a supportive environment is essential for healing.

Sunday Jun 22, 2025
Sunday Jun 22, 2025
keywords
assisted dying, suicide, palliative care, mental health, grief, legislation, death, cultural attitudes, pandemic, healthcare
summary
In this conversation, Dr. Rachel Gibbons, David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy discuss the complexities surrounding assisted dying, its implications, and the cultural shifts in attitudes towards death. The dialogue explores the differences between assisted dying and suicide, the role of palliative care, and the emotional landscape of dying, particularly in light of the pandemic. Dr Gibbons emphasizes the need for thoughtful discourse and safeguards in the legislation surrounding assisted dying, while also reflecting on personal experiences with grief and the societal attitudes towards death.
takeaways
Assisted dying is a global movement gaining traction.
Terminology around assisted dying varies by country.
Cultural attitudes towards death are shifting post-pandemic.
There is a significant difference between assisted dying and suicide.
Quality of end-of-life care is crucial.
Palliative care needs to be improved for better outcomes.
The emotional landscape of dying is complex and charged.
Societal biases can impact decisions around assisted dying.
Grief can manifest differently based on relationships.
Legislation around assisted dying requires careful consideration and safeguards.
Website with links to papers, book.
https://www.drrachelgibbons.co.uk/
titles

Sunday Jun 22, 2025
Sunday Jun 22, 2025
keywords
assisted dying, suicide, palliative care, mental health, grief, legislation, death, cultural attitudes, pandemic, healthcare
summary
In this conversation, Dr. Rachel Gibbons, David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy discuss the complexities surrounding assisted dying, its implications, and the cultural shifts in attitudes towards death. The dialogue explores the differences between assisted dying and suicide, the role of palliative care, and the emotional landscape of dying, particularly in light of the pandemic. Dr Gibbons emphasizes the need for thoughtful discourse and safeguards in the legislation surrounding assisted dying, while also reflecting on personal experiences with grief and the societal attitudes towards death.
takeaways
Assisted dying is a global movement gaining traction.
Terminology around assisted dying varies by country.
Cultural attitudes towards death are shifting post-pandemic.
There is a significant difference between assisted dying and suicide.
Quality of end-of-life care is crucial.
Palliative care needs to be improved for better outcomes.
The emotional landscape of dying is complex and charged.
Societal biases can impact decisions around assisted dying.
Grief can manifest differently based on relationships.
Legislation around assisted dying requires careful consideration and safeguards.
Website with links to papers, book.
https://www.drrachelgibbons.co.uk/
titles

Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
Emma Webb (Audio); The Untold Stories of Abuse in gymnastics and other athletic events
Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
Keywords
abuse, gymnastics, Olympians, memoir, survivors, systemic issues, education, self-care, healing, change
Summary
In this conversation, Emma (not her real name) shares her powerful journey of survival and healing after experiencing abuse in gymnastics. She discusses the importance of sharing her story through her memoir, the complicity of those in power, and the systemic issues within sports that allow abuse to persist. Emma emphasizes the need for parents to be vigilant and educated about the environments their children are in, and she reflects on her own healing journey and the importance of self-care.
Takeaways
Emma felt it was imperative to share her story.
She was part of a support group of survivors.
The book aims to raise awareness about ongoing abuse in gymnastics.
Parents need to be aware of the risks in sports.
Olympians are often seen as untouchable figures.
The complicity of enablers is a significant issue.
Systemic problems in sports allow abuse to continue.
Education systems need to better protect children.
Self-care is crucial in the healing process.
Emma's journey is a call for societal change.

Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
Emma Webb (video) The Untold Stories of Abuse in gymnastics and other athletic events
Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
Keywords
abuse, gymnastics, Olympians, memoir, survivors, systemic issues, education, self-care, healing, change
Summary
In this conversation, Emma (not her real name) shares her powerful journey of survival and healing after experiencing abuse in gymnastics. She discusses the importance of sharing her story through her memoir, the complicity of those in power, and the systemic issues within sports that allow abuse to persist. Emma emphasizes the need for parents to be vigilant and educated about the environments their children are in, and she reflects on her own healing journey and the importance of self-care.
Takeaways
Emma felt it was imperative to share her story.
She was part of a support group of survivors.
The book aims to raise awareness about ongoing abuse in gymnastics.
Parents need to be aware of the risks in sports.
Olympians are often seen as untouchable figures.
The complicity of enablers is a significant issue.
Systemic problems in sports allow abuse to continue.
Education systems need to better protect children.
Self-care is crucial in the healing process.
Emma's journey is a call for societal change.

Why 'Locked up Living?'
David is a psychotherapist who has worked leading therapeutic communities in English prisons and in Millfields, an NHS forensic setting in East London. Naomi is a Consultant Clinical and Forensic psychologist who was, for many years, clinical lead at The Fens, a treatment programme for serious offenders at HMP Whitemoor. We had both experienced painful and destructive forces in our work and so we set out to discover what things make a positive difference for staff and service users and what is it that makes things go wrong. Of course we found out that there is no easy answer but there are many fascinating and valuable experiences to be heard.






