The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments

Toby Ingham (Audio); Navigating Trauma: A Therapeutic Journey. Unveiling the Layers of Psychotherapy

Toby Ingham is a BPC & UKCP registered psychotherapist & supervisor and a member of The British Psychotherapy Foundation and BAPPS. He was Clinical Director of South Bucks Counselling (2019-2023). Before setting up his psychotherapy practice in Oxford, he trained in the NHS at St Barts’ Hospital, and at the Homerton Hospital in London.  He is a former staff psychotherapist at Nightingale Hospital and also trained at Promis Addiction Centre, and Age Concern. He has 25 years of experience working with people dealing with depression, low mood, anxiety states, trauma, bereavement, addictions, and emotional instability.  https://tobyingham.com/
https://www.karnacbooks.com/ProductTOC.asp?PID=97952
In this conversation, Toby discusses his book 'A Guilty Victim', which chronicles his therapeutic journey with a client named William. The discussion delves into the complexities of psychotherapy, the impact of trauma on creativity, and the ethical considerations of sharing a client's story. Ingham emphasizes the importance of collaboration in therapy and the profound effects of emotional neglect on an individual's ability to express themselves creatively. The conversation also highlights the therapist's perspective on self-care and the emotional demands of the profession.

Toby Ingham (Video) Navigating Trauma: A Therapeutic Journey. Unveiling the Layers of Psychotherapy

Toby Ingham is a BPC & UKCP registered psychotherapist & supervisor and a member of The British Psychotherapy Foundation and BAPPS. He was Clinical Director of South Bucks Counselling (2019-2023). Before setting up his psychotherapy practice in Oxford, he trained in the NHS at St Barts’ Hospital, and at the Homerton Hospital in London.  He is a former staff psychotherapist at Nightingale Hospital and also trained at Promis Addiction Centre, and Age Concern. He has 25 years of experience working with people dealing with depression, low mood, anxiety states, trauma, bereavement, addictions, and emotional instability.  https://tobyingham.com/
https://www.karnacbooks.com/ProductTOC.asp?PID=97952
In this conversation, Toby discusses his book 'A Guilty Victim', which chronicles his therapeutic journey with a client named William. The discussion delves into the complexities of psychotherapy, the impact of trauma on creativity, and the ethical considerations of sharing a client's story. Ingham emphasizes the importance of collaboration in therapy and the profound effects of emotional neglect on an individual's ability to express themselves creatively. The conversation also highlights the therapist's perspective on self-care and the emotional demands of the profession.

Elanor Webb (Audio) Understanding Moral Injury: Origins, Impacts, and Solutions in Healthcare

keywordsmoral injury, psychological trauma, healthcare, forensic populations, mental health, research, organizational health, emotional literacy, whistleblowing, secure mental health
summaryIn this conversation, Elanor Webb discusses the concept of moral injury, particularly in the context of healthcare and forensic populations. She explains the definitions, symptoms, and historical context of moral injury, as well as her research findings on its prevalence and sources in secure mental health settings. The discussion also covers protective factors against moral injury, the role of organizations in fostering a morally healthy environment, and the implications of whistleblowing. Elanor emphasizes the importance of emotional literacy and support systems for individuals working in high-stress environments.
·       Elanor's research relating to potential sources of moral injury for secure mental healthcare staff is published and available at: https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/jcrpp-03-2024-0021/full/html?skipTracking=true#:~:text=In%20accordance%20with%20dominant%20definitions,700).
·       The CDCT project relating to recommendations for establishing a morally healthy organisation is published and available at: https://journals.lww.com/joem/abstract/9900/guidance_for_creating_morally_healthy.727.aspx
takeaways
Moral injury arises from actions that conflict with one's moral values.
It is characterized by feelings of guilt, shame, and loss of trust.
Moral injury is distinct from PTSD and burnout.
The historical context of moral injury is rooted in war-related experiences.
Research shows moral injury is prevalent in healthcare settings, especially during COVID-19.
Sources of moral injury can be unique to specific environments, like secure mental health care.
Social support can have both protective and negative effects on moral injury.
Organizational responses to moral transgressions significantly impact individual experiences of moral injury.
Whistleblowing can be both a response to and a cause of moral injury.
Education and emotional literacy are crucial for preventing moral injury.
 

Elanor Webb (Video) Understanding Moral Injury: Origins, Impacts, and Solutions in Healthcare

keywordsmoral injury, psychological trauma, healthcare, forensic populations, mental health, research, organizational health, emotional literacy, whistleblowing, secure mental health
summaryIn this conversation, Elanor Webb discusses the concept of moral injury, particularly in the context of healthcare and forensic populations. She explains the definitions, symptoms, and historical context of moral injury, as well as her research findings on its prevalence and sources in secure mental health settings. The discussion also covers protective factors against moral injury, the role of organizations in fostering a morally healthy environment, and the implications of whistleblowing. Elanor emphasizes the importance of emotional literacy and support systems for individuals working in high-stress environments.
·       Elanor's research relating to potential sources of moral injury for secure mental healthcare staff is published and available at: https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/jcrpp-03-2024-0021/full/html?skipTracking=true#:~:text=In%20accordance%20with%20dominant%20definitions,700).
·       The CDCT project relating to recommendations for establishing a morally healthy organisation is published and available at: https://journals.lww.com/joem/abstract/9900/guidance_for_creating_morally_healthy.727.aspx
takeaways
Moral injury arises from actions that conflict with one's moral values.
It is characterized by feelings of guilt, shame, and loss of trust.
Moral injury is distinct from PTSD and burnout.
The historical context of moral injury is rooted in war-related experiences.
Research shows moral injury is prevalent in healthcare settings, especially during COVID-19.
Sources of moral injury can be unique to specific environments, like secure mental health care.
Social support can have both protective and negative effects on moral injury.
Organizational responses to moral transgressions significantly impact individual experiences of moral injury.
Whistleblowing can be both a response to and a cause of moral injury.
Education and emotional literacy are crucial for preventing moral injury.
 

Dr Cathy Wield (Audio); A shocking story of battling through the mental health system.

keywordsmental health, trauma, psychiatry, stigma, treatment, depression, alternative therapies, childhood experiences, faith, patient advocacy
summary In this conversation David and Naomi talk with Dr. Cathy Wield. Cathy shares her profound journey through the mental health system, detailing her experiences with the label of treatment-resistant depression, the stigma surrounding mental health, and the impact of childhood trauma. She discusses her discoveries about alternative treatments and the importance of questioning the medical narrative. Dr. Wield emphasizes the need for compassion in mental health care and encourages others to reflect on their own experiences and treatment options.
Cathy's book; Unshackled Mind: A Doctor’s Story of Trauma, Liberation and Healing
https://realspeak.org/about-2/
Takeaways
Dr. Wield's journey highlights the complexities of mental health treatment.
Stigma can exacerbate feelings of failure in patients.
The narrative of being 'ill' can overshadow personal experiences.
Childhood trauma plays a significant role in mental health.
Alternative treatments can lead to better outcomes.
Dehumanization in treatment can lead to further trauma.
Patients should feel empowered to question their treatment.
Understanding the root causes of behavior is crucial in mental health.
Support networks are vital for recovery.

Dr Cathy Wield (Video); A shocking story of battling through the mental health system.

keywordsmental health, trauma, psychiatry, stigma, treatment, depression, alternative therapies, childhood experiences, faith, patient advocacy
summary In this conversation David and Naomi talk with Dr. Cathy Wield. Cathy shares her profound journey through the mental health system, detailing her experiences with the label of treatment-resistant depression, the stigma surrounding mental health, and the impact of childhood trauma. She discusses her discoveries about alternative treatments and the importance of questioning the medical narrative. Dr. Wield emphasizes the need for compassion in mental health care and encourages others to reflect on their own experiences and treatment options.
Cathy's book; Unshackled Mind: A Doctor’s Story of Trauma, Liberation and Healing
https://realspeak.org/about-2/
Takeaways
Dr. Wield's journey highlights the complexities of mental health treatment.
Stigma can exacerbate feelings of failure in patients.
The narrative of being 'ill' can overshadow personal experiences.
Childhood trauma plays a significant role in mental health.
Alternative treatments can lead to better outcomes.
Dehumanization in treatment can lead to further trauma.
Patients should feel empowered to question their treatment.
Understanding the root causes of behavior is crucial in mental health.
Support networks are vital for recovery.
 
 

Aga Kehinde and Sharon Osterfield; (Audio) Using Emotional Freedom Techniques in English prisons.

Keywords
Arukah Project, trauma-informed care, emotional freedom techniques, prison rehabilitation, mental health, adverse childhood experiences, somatic techniques, community support, wellbeing, resilience
 
Summary
 
The conversation centres around the Arukah Project, founded by Sharon Osterfield and Aga Kehinde, which aims to provide trauma-informed care and emotional freedom techniques (EFT) to support individuals, particularly in prison settings. They discuss their personal experiences that led to the creation of the project, the importance of understanding trauma, and the effectiveness of EFT in managing stress and emotional dysregulation. The project focuses on psychoeducation, community support, and future initiatives to expand their reach and impact.
 
Takeaways
 
The Arukah Project focuses on the restoration of mind, body, and spirit.
Both founders have personal experiences that shaped their mission.
Understanding trauma is crucial for effective intervention.
EFT is a simple yet powerful technique for stress reduction.
Trauma-informed care can significantly impact prison rehabilitation.
The project aims to educate and empower individuals with tools for resilience.
Community involvement and lived experience are central to their approach.
The project seeks to address the generational impact of trauma.
Future initiatives include expanding into police support and youth interventions.
Collaboration with other organizations enhances their effectiveness.
 
 
Chapters
 
00:00 Introduction to the Arukah Project
03:14 Foundational Experiences and Motivations
06:14 The Arukah Project's Focus on Trauma
08:34 Exploring the Prison Population
11:26 Understanding Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT)
14:37 Evidence and Effectiveness of EFT
17:01 Implementing the Arukah Project in Prisons
23:00 Understanding Trauma in Prison Environments
25:41 Barriers to Implementing Support Programs
28:33 Future Directions for the Arukah Project
34:32 Organizational Growth and Community Impact
38:31 Evidence-Based Practices in Trauma Support
40:22 Practical Wellbeing Tips for Listeners
42:12 Outro Oct 23  2.mp4

Aga Kehinde and Sharon Osterfield;(Video) Using Emotional Freedom Techniques in English prisons.

Arukah Project, trauma-informed care, emotional freedom techniques, prison rehabilitation, mental health, adverse childhood experiences, somatic techniques, community support, wellbeing, resilience
 
Summary
 
The conversation centres around the Arukah Project, founded by Sharon Osterfield and Aga Kehinde, which aims to provide trauma-informed care and emotional freedom techniques (EFT) to support individuals, particularly in prison settings. They discuss their personal experiences that led to the creation of the project, the importance of understanding trauma, and the effectiveness of EFT in managing stress and emotional dysregulation. The project focuses on psychoeducation, community support, and future initiatives to expand their reach and impact.
 
Takeaways
 
The Arukah Project focuses on the restoration of mind, body, and spirit.
Both founders have personal experiences that shaped their mission.
Understanding trauma is crucial for effective intervention.
EFT is a simple yet powerful technique for stress reduction.
Trauma-informed care can significantly impact prison rehabilitation.
The project aims to educate and empower individuals with tools for resilience.
Community involvement and lived experience are central to their approach.
The project seeks to address the generational impact of trauma.
Future initiatives include expanding into police support and youth interventions.
Collaboration with other organizations enhances their effectiveness.
 
 
Chapters
 
00:00 Introduction to the Arukah Project
03:14 Foundational Experiences and Motivations
06:14 The Arukah Project's Focus on Trauma
08:34 Exploring the Prison Population
11:26 Understanding Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT)
14:37 Evidence and Effectiveness of EFT
17:01 Implementing the Arukah Project in Prisons
23:00 Understanding Trauma in Prison Environments
25:41 Barriers to Implementing Support Programs
28:33 Future Directions for the Arukah Project
34:32 Organizational Growth and Community Impact
38:31 Evidence-Based Practices in Trauma Support
40:22 Practical Wellbeing Tips for Listeners
42:12 Outro Oct 23  2.mp4

Daniel White (Audio); Embracing Nature: The Science of Circadian Rhythms and Well-Being

In this fascinating episode, Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet with Daniel White, a leading expert in circadian rhythms and health optimization. Daniel shares his journey into the world of sleep science and circadian rhythms, discussing the profound effects of light exposure on our health and well-being. He emphasizes the importance of aligning our lifestyles with the natural rhythms of the planet and offers practical tips for improving sleep and overall health.
Key Topics Discussed:
- Introduction to Daniel White and his background in nutrition and health coaching.
- The significance of circadian rhythms and how they influence our daily lives.
- The impact of artificial light from screens versus natural light on our body clocks.
- Insights into Daniel's company, Sleep Better, Live Better, and its mission to educate and improve health outcomes.
- The role of nutrition and light exposure in enhancing mental health and mood.
- Tips for shift workers on managing their health while working non-traditional hours.
- The importance of spending time outdoors and connecting with nature for overall well-being.
- Daniel's personal journey into understanding circadian rhythms and their effects on health.
- The connection between light exposure and mitochondrial health. - Practical advice for listeners on how to improve their sleep and daily routines.
- The upcoming educational programs aimed at schools and organizations to promote better health practices.
https://www.sleepbetterlivebetter.co.uk/?srsltid=AfmBOorWit3-6dsvnZ-K_3qPllS_t3Be2-h_RFzGgJrDqEv0RFZQnZnX

Daniel White (Video) Embracing Nature: The Science of Circadian Rhythms and Well-Being

In this fascinating episode, Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet with Daniel White, a leading expert in circadian rhythms and health optimization. Daniel shares his journey into the world of sleep science and circadian rhythms, discussing the profound effects of light exposure on our health and well-being. He emphasizes the importance of aligning our lifestyles with the natural rhythms of the planet and offers practical tips for improving sleep and overall health.
Key Topics Discussed:
- Introduction to Daniel White and his background in nutrition and health coaching.
- The significance of circadian rhythms and how they influence our daily lives.
- The impact of artificial light from screens versus natural light on our body clocks.
- Insights into Daniel's company, Sleep Better, Live Better, and its mission to educate and improve health outcomes.
- The role of nutrition and light exposure in enhancing mental health and mood.
- Tips for shift workers on managing their health while working non-traditional hours.
- The importance of spending time outdoors and connecting with nature for overall well-being.
- Daniel's personal journey into understanding circadian rhythms and their effects on health.
- The connection between light exposure and mitochondrial health. - Practical advice for listeners on how to improve their sleep and daily routines.
- The upcoming educational programs aimed at schools and organizations to promote better health practices.
https://www.sleepbetterlivebetter.co.uk/?srsltid=AfmBOorWit3-6dsvnZ-K_3qPllS_t3Be2-h_RFzGgJrDqEv0RFZQnZnX

Dr Paul Greenall (Audio); Understanding Stranger Sexual Violence: Insights and Impacts

In this discussion David Jones and Naomi Murphy meet with Dr. Paul Greenall. Dr. Greenall is a seasoned forensic psychologist with extensive experience in secure mental health hospitals and NHS services within prisons.
Paul delves into the complexities of forensic practice, particularly focusing on the nuances of sexual violence and the importance of treating each case as unique. He emphasizes the need for an ideographic approach, which means understanding the individual circumstances and motivations behind each offender's actions rather than relying solely on group-based research.
This perspective is crucial, as it acknowledges that even similar offenses can stem from vastly different reasons depending on the individual involved.  Paul shares his journey into the field, starting from his early experiences at Ashworth Hospital, Liverpool. He reflects on how these experiences shaped his understanding of the emotional toll that forensic work can take on practitioners. He candidly discusses the potential for desensitisation and the development of gallows humour as coping mechanisms in a profession that often deals with extreme and distressing behaviors.
The conversation also touches on the societal perceptions of sexual violence, particularly how crime dramas can distort public understanding by portraying stranger assaults as more common than they actually are. Paul points out that most sexual offenses occur within personal relationships, highlighting the need for a more accurate representation of these issues in media and public discourse.
Throughout the discussion, Paul advocates for the importance of free speech and the value of maintaining a compassionate and positive outlook in forensic practice. He acknowledges the challenges faced by professionals in the field, including the risk of cynicism and burnout, and emphasizes the necessity of self-care and maintaining a sense of purpose. Listeners are encouraged to consider the individual stories behind criminal behavior and to approach each case with empathy and an open mind.
Paul's research; https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Paul-Greenall
Paul's book; https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sexual-Offending-Strangers-Paul-Greenall/dp/1032109319
Find Paul here; https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dr-paul-v-greenall-b470a3300

Paul Greenall (Video) Understanding Stranger Sexual Violence: Insights and Impacts

In this discussion David Jones and Naomi Murphy meet with Dr. Paul Greenall. Dr. Greenall is a seasoned forensic psychologist with extensive experience in secure mental health hospitals and NHS services within prisons.
Paul delves into the complexities of forensic practice, particularly focusing on the nuances of sexual violence and the importance of treating each case as unique. He emphasizes the need for an ideographic approach, which means understanding the individual circumstances and motivations behind each offender's actions rather than relying solely on group-based research.
This perspective is crucial, as it acknowledges that even similar offenses can stem from vastly different reasons depending on the individual involved.  Paul shares his journey into the field, starting from his early experiences at Ashworth Hospital, Liverpool. He reflects on how these experiences shaped his understanding of the emotional toll that forensic work can take on practitioners. He candidly discusses the potential for desensitisation and the development of gallows humour as coping mechanisms in a profession that often deals with extreme and distressing behaviors.
The conversation also touches on the societal perceptions of sexual violence, particularly how crime dramas can distort public understanding by portraying stranger assaults as more common than they actually are. Paul points out that most sexual offenses occur within personal relationships, highlighting the need for a more accurate representation of these issues in media and public discourse.
Throughout the discussion, Paul advocates for the importance of free speech and the value of maintaining a compassionate and positive outlook in forensic practice. He acknowledges the challenges faced by professionals in the field, including the risk of cynicism and burnout, and emphasizes the necessity of self-care and maintaining a sense of purpose. Listeners are encouraged to consider the individual stories behind criminal behavior and to approach each case with empathy and an open mind.
Paul's research; https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Paul-Greenall
Paul's book; https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sexual-Offending-Strangers-Paul-Greenall/dp/1032109319
Find Paul here; https://uk.linkedin.com/in/dr-paul-v-greenall-b470a3300

Harriet Waley-Cohen (audio) Transforming Workplaces: Harriet's Approach to Gender Equality; Fix the system not the women

In this episode of Locked Up Living, Naomi and David interview Harriet Waley Cohen. As a seasoned speaker, trainer, coach, and writer with a background in psychology and investment management, Harriet shares her journey and expertise in supporting women in male-dominated environments. She discusses her career transition, personal experiences, and current initiatives on diversity, equality, and inclusion. Harriet also delves into the toxicity of perfectionism and her approach to fostering inclusive corporate cultures.
 
 
Find out more here at: www.harrietwaleycohen.com
 
 
Why 'Imposter Syndrome' is a DEI issue (and not a mindset issue) - Get Harriet's free report here
 
Download Harriet's collaborative research report into The Sexualisation of Women in the Workplace here
 
Join the conversation and connect with Harriet on LinkedIn here
 
Watch Harriet's talk on the toxicity of perfectionism here
 
Interested to work with Harriet or to book her to speak? Reply here to Allison, her awesome EA at help@harrietwaleycohen.com Video: ITV's This Morning: body positivity and breast cancer

Harriet Waley-Cohen (video); Transforming Workplaces: Harriet's Approach to Gender Equality; Fix the System, Not the Women:

In this episode of Locked Up Living, Naomi and David interview Harriet Waley Cohen. As a seasoned speaker, trainer, coach, and writer with a background in psychology and investment management, Harriet shares her journey and expertise in supporting women in male-dominated environments. She discusses her career transition, personal experiences, and current initiatives on diversity, equality, and inclusion. Harriet also delves into the toxicity of perfectionism and her approach to fostering inclusive corporate cultures.
 
 
Find out more here at: www.harrietwaleycohen.com
 
 
Why 'Imposter Syndrome' is a DEI issue (and not a mindset issue) - Get Harriet's free report here
 
Download Harriet's collaborative research report into The Sexualisation of Women in the Workplace here
 
Join the conversation and connect with Harriet on LinkedIn here
 
Watch Harriet's talk on the toxicity of perfectionism here
 
Interested to work with Harriet or to book her to speak? Reply here to Allison, her awesome EA at help@harrietwaleycohen.com Video: ITV's This Morning: body positivity and breast cancer

Joe Sabien (audio) Turning Pain into Purpose: Joe Sabien's Path to Mental Health Advocacy

We’ve had a fantastic conversation with today’s guest once before.  Joe Sabien founded Sea Sanctuary and previously came on to talk about the healing potential of awe specifically in relation to the sea.  We didn’t much talk about his own history although he did allude to his own childhood shaping his attitude towards the sea.  Today we’re really privileged that he’s come back on to share some of his own inspirational story. 
In the episode, Naomi and David welcome back Joe Sabien, to share his personal journey and insights into mental health. Joe discusses his very difficult childhood experiences, the impact they had on his life, and how they ignited his passion for helping others. He also introduces his latest initiatives aimed at improving access to mental health support and giving a voice to those who have experienced care.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-sabien-84b2804/?originalSubdomain=uk
www.archealthcaresouthwest.org.uk
Key Topics Discussed:
 
- Joseph's background and experiences in childhood that shaped his understanding of mental health.
- The importance of serving others and how it has contributed to Joseph's healing journey.
- Insights into the challenges people face in accessing mental health services and Joseph's innovative solutions.
- The development of a digital health app designed to connect individuals in crisis with support quickly.
- Joseph's initiative to create a book featuring stories from individuals in care, highlighting their resilience and talents.
- The concept of post-traumatic growth and the power of sharing personal stories to inspire hope in others.

Joe Sabien (Video) Turning Pain into Purpose: Joe Sabien's Path to Mental Health Advocacy

We’ve had a fantastic conversation with today’s guest once before.  Joe Sabien founded Sea Sanctuary and previously came on to talk about the healing potential of awe specifically in relation to the sea.  We didn’t much talk about his own history although he did allude to his own childhood shaping his attitude towards the sea.  Today we’re really privileged that he’s come back on to share some of his own inspirational story. 
In the episode, Naomi and David welcome back Joe Sabien, to share his personal journey and insights into mental health. Joe discusses his very difficult childhood experiences, the impact they had on his life, and how they ignited his passion for helping others. He also introduces his latest initiatives aimed at improving access to mental health support and giving a voice to those who have experienced care.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-sabien-84b2804/?originalSubdomain=uk
www.archealthcaresouthwest.org.uk
Key Topics Discussed:
 
- Joseph's background and experiences in childhood that shaped his understanding of mental health.
- The importance of serving others and how it has contributed to Joseph's healing journey.
- Insights into the challenges people face in accessing mental health services and Joseph's innovative solutions.
- The development of a digital health app designed to connect individuals in crisis with support quickly.
- Joseph's initiative to create a book featuring stories from individuals in care, highlighting their resilience and talents.
- The concept of post-traumatic growth and the power of sharing personal stories to inspire hope in others.

Joanna Brittan (Audio); From Boarding School to Harrods: Joanna Brittan's Fight for Justice

This week we present two podcast conversations, featuring Bridgette Carr and Joanna Brittan. The conversations delve into the complex issues surrounding human trafficking, sexual abuse, and the broader implications of these topics on society. Both conversations highlight the importance of understanding the humanity of individuals affected by these issues, while also addressing systemic factors that contribute to their experiences. We suggest that you listen to Bridgette’s conversation first since it excellent international context for the events that Joanna Brittan describes from her own experience.
Jo is a remarkable woman who has led an extraordinary life. She has been on our podcast before talking about abuse in UK private schools. Her description and understanding of the pain experienced by little children left in boarding school is painful to hear. She also speaks out about the sexual abuse which took place in Sherborne Prep School, in particular but not only, and how nobody was held to account despite the evidence. In this conversation she talks about her terrible experiences of being trafficked and abused by those involved with the activities of Harrods owners and staff. The abuses continued, though not to Joanna, until it was sold by Mohamed al Fayed in 2010.
 
"I guess you could describe me as a campaigner for justice for Boarding School CSA Survivors. 2009 to date. Calling for the urgent introduction of Mandatory Reporting of CSA in UK which most of the the rest of the world has had for some time.  You can see in Mandate Now https://mandatenow.org.uk/
 

Joanna Brittan (Video); From Boarding School to Harrods: Joanna Brittan's Fight for Justice

This week we present two podcast conversations, featuring Bridgette Carr and Joanna Brittan. The conversations delve into the complex issues surrounding human trafficking, sexual abuse, and the broader implications of these topics on society. Both conversations highlight the importance of understanding the humanity of individuals affected by these issues, while also addressing systemic factors that contribute to their experiences. We suggest that you listen to Bridgette’s conversation first since it excellent international context for the events that Joanna Brittan describes from her own experience.
his week we present two podcast conversations, featuring Bridgette Carr and Joanna Brittan. The conversations delve into the complex issues surrounding human trafficking, sexual abuse, and the broader implications of these topics on society. Both conversations highlight the importance of understanding the humanity of individuals affected by these issues, while also addressing systemic factors that contribute to their experiences. We suggest that you listen to Bridgette’s conversation first since it excellent international context for the events that Joanna Brittan describes from her own experience.
Jo is a remarkable woman who has led an extraordinary life. She has been on our podcast before talking about abuse in UK private schools. Her description and understanding of the pain experienced by little children left in boarding school is painful to hear. She also speaks out about the sexual abuse which took place in Sherborne Prep School, in particular but not only, and how nobody was held to account despite the evidence. In this conversation she talks about her terrible experiences of being trafficked and abused by those involved with the activities of Harrods owners and staff. The abuses continued, though not to Joanna, until it was sold by Mohamed al Fayed in 2010.
 
"I guess you could describe me as a campaigner for justice for Boarding School CSA Survivors. 2009 to date. Calling for the urgent introduction of Mandatory Reporting of CSA in UK which most of the the rest of the world has had for some time.  You can see in Mandate Now https://mandatenow.org.uk/
 

Bridgette Carr (Audio); "The Uncomfortable Truth: Our Role in Trafficking

This week we present two podcast conversations, featuring Bridgette Carr and Joanna Brittan. The conversations delve into the complex issues surrounding human trafficking, sexual abuse, and the broader implications of these topics on society. Both conversations highlight the importance of understanding the humanity of individuals affected by these issues, while also addressing systemic factors that contribute to their experiences. We suggest that you listen to Bridgette’s conversation first since it excellent international context for the events that Joanna Brittan describes from her own experience.
Bridgette Carr, a distinguished clinical law professor at the University of Michigan, engages in a profound discussion about the complexities of sexual assault and human trafficking. In her conversation, she emphasizes the importance of recognizing trafficking as a systemic issue rather than merely attributing it to individual bad actors. Bridgette highlights that many victims of trafficking have rich lives beyond their traumatic experiences, and her work often involves supporting clients in achieving their broader life goals, such as education and personal milestones.
 
Bridgette also addresses the misconceptions surrounding trafficking, noting that it often involves blurred lines between victim and perpetrator, particularly when individuals who were once victims become involved in recruiting others. This complexity challenges the simplistic narratives society tends to favour. She advocates addressing the root causes of vulnerability, such as poverty, rather than focusing solely on rescue missions, which can be misguided.
 
 Bridgette also discusses the Harrods Affair, stressing the need to understand trafficking within a broader context. She encourages a shift in focus towards systemic solutions, such as universal income, to reduce vulnerability and prevent trafficking. Additionally, she mentions innovative projects at Michigan Law School aimed at tracing supply chains in agriculture to identify potential trafficking issues, showcasing the intersection of technology and social justice in combating these pervasive problems. Overall, Bridgette’s insights illuminate the multifaceted nature of trafficking and the necessity for a compassionate, informed approach to advocacy and legal reform.
Bridgette Carr is a distinguished clinical law professor at the University of Michigan Law School, recognized for her comprehensive understanding of the complexities of sexual assault and human trafficking cases. With over 15 years of practice in trauma-informed interviews and investigations, she has developed a profound reputation for her compassionate, empathetic, and equitable approach. At the University of Michigan Law School, Bridgette founded the Human Trafficking Clinic, the first clinical law program devoted to addressing human trafficking issues and teaching law students trauma-informed and ethical lawyering skills. Since then, Bridgette and her colleagues have provided free legal services to the victims of trafficking crimes. 
 
In addition to her impressive legal practice, Bridgette is a sought-after trainer and consultant on sexual assault and human trafficking. Her extensive experience in representing individuals extends beyond the courtroom; she also equips law students and legal professionals with the essential skills for ethical, compassionate, and trauma-informed interviewing, investigation, and trial advocacy techniques within the state, federal, and administrative systems. 
 
https://michigan.law.umich.edu/faculty-and-scholarship/our-faculty/bridgette-carr
 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Human-Trafficking-Policy-Bridgette-Carr/dp/1422489035

Bridgette Carr (Video); The Uncomfortable Truth: Our Role in Trafficking

This week we present two podcast conversations, featuring Bridgette Carr and Joanna Brittan. The conversations delve into the complex issues surrounding human trafficking, sexual abuse, and the broader implications of these topics on society. Both conversations highlight the importance of understanding the humanity of individuals affected by these issues, while also addressing systemic factors that contribute to their experiences. We suggest that you listen to Bridgette’s conversation first since it excellent international context for the events that Joanna Brittan describes from her own experience.
Bridgette Carr, a distinguished clinical law professor at the University of Michigan, engages in a profound discussion about the complexities of sexual assault and human trafficking. In her conversation, she emphasizes the importance of recognizing trafficking as a systemic issue rather than merely attributing it to individual bad actors. Bridgette highlights that many victims of trafficking have rich lives beyond their traumatic experiences, and her work often involves supporting clients in achieving their broader life goals, such as education and personal milestones.
 
Bridgette also addresses the misconceptions surrounding trafficking, noting that it often involves blurred lines between victim and perpetrator, particularly when individuals who were once victims become involved in recruiting others. This complexity challenges the simplistic narratives society tends to favour. She advocates addressing the root causes of vulnerability, such as poverty, rather than focusing solely on rescue missions, which can be misguided.
 
 Bridgette also discusses the Harrods Affair, stressing the need to understand trafficking within a broader context. She encourages a shift in focus towards systemic solutions, such as universal income, to reduce vulnerability and prevent trafficking. Additionally, she mentions innovative projects at Michigan Law School aimed at tracing supply chains in agriculture to identify potential trafficking issues, showcasing the intersection of technology and social justice in combating these pervasive problems. Overall, Bridgette’s insights illuminate the multifaceted nature of trafficking and the necessity for a compassionate, informed approach to advocacy and legal reform.
Bridgette Carr is a distinguished clinical law professor at the University of Michigan Law School, recognized for her comprehensive understanding of the complexities of sexual assault and human trafficking cases. With over 15 years of practice in trauma-informed interviews and investigations, she has developed a profound reputation for her compassionate, empathetic, and equitable approach. At the University of Michigan Law School, Bridgette founded the Human Trafficking Clinic, the first clinical law program devoted to addressing human trafficking issues and teaching law students trauma-informed and ethical lawyering skills. Since then, Bridgette and her colleagues have provided free legal services to the victims of trafficking crimes. 
 
In addition to her impressive legal practice, Bridgette is a sought-after trainer and consultant on sexual assault and human trafficking. Her extensive experience in representing individuals extends beyond the courtroom; she also equips law students and legal professionals with the essential skills for ethical, compassionate, and trauma-informed interviewing, investigation, and trial advocacy techniques within the state, federal, and administrative systems. 
 
https://michigan.law.umich.edu/faculty-and-scholarship/our-faculty/bridgette-carr
 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Human-Trafficking-Policy-Bridgette-Carr/dp/1422489035